I know I’ll be pissing off some people with this.
But I guess that’s their problem…
Moral is don’t believe anything you see.
Fell free to leave a comment!
How I Made $10,000 In 5 Minutes On Clickbank…
August 18th, 2011 · 40 Comments · Uncategorized
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Hi, now just show us the real way to make $ 10000 on clickbank ! Lol(:
Hard work building a quality product in a hot market, then spending money in advertising while approaching other vendors in the market with JV proposals.
Sorry it ain’t as sexy as those ‘click your mouse 3 times’ methods, but I’m just not as smart as those guru’s I guess. My business took hard work, JV relationships and lots of capital to build.
- Reilly
Excellent reply Reilly. It says it all. The “Ruby Slippers” method of business is a lie. Work people…Honest days hard WORK. Doesn’t matter what the industry. WORK!
Gotta love Firebug! Thanks for pulling back the curtain Jimmy!
Firebug for screenshots, firesheep for the conventions
- Reilly
I for one no longer give any credence to any ClickBank screen shot no matter who is presenting it.
This can be done on any website, paypal, aweber, banks, anything.
- Reilly
Would Clickbank respond if you showed them something you questioned and asked them to verify it?
That might not help with the launch stats used as affiliate stats scenerio, but if Clickbank really is interested in cleaning up their reputation they might want to have these things reported.
If Clickbank responds that the claims are false, then these people could be called out.
I imagine they would if enough people complain. Trouble is this can be done on any website, paypal, banks whatever. It’s just changing the document on the client side.
- Reilly
So, is this a screen shot that you were changing? What exactly were you changing?
What about when people supposedly log in live?
I was changing the HTML document live, it’s only on the client side but it looks 100% real on video or for screenshots.
This can be done for “watch me log in live” videos. Done correctly it is impossible to tell.
- Reilly
Thanks!
I’m glad people feel the same way about these things as I do…
I personally never take screenshots as “proof” and hardly ever use them for my own sales copy simply because it usually is “hard to believe” and for good reason!
Thanks for this Jimmy!
Cheers,
Coby Wright
Thanks for pointing that out. It dawned on me how to do that and how easy it would be to do. I never paid much attention to the “proof” but now I’ll pay even less other than a curiosity of if they faked it.
Jimmy,
Great video. I knew that a lot of the so called “guru” sales letters were faked. I didn’t know how fast you could do that until I saw this video! I never trusted most of the “social proof” claims especially from Clickbank.
Someday, there should be a website that is dedicated to showing only REAL and LEGITIMATE internet marketing offers. A kind of site that does extreme filtering of the author, marketer, and affiliate doing the selling so you know without a doubt of a real offer.
Great work Jimmy. Keep sending us information that we need to know!
Regards,
Bruce
In a perfect world there would some ‘third party’ to verify income claim’s and test IM products. The trouble is they will make their money promoting the very products so it is in their best interest to let the highest converters through. This is similar to paying mortgage brokers yield spread premium based on the interest rates they give out.
Not only that but the people releasing the products would only get more clever in how they fake their results.
- Reilly
Hey man, thanks for putting this out there. The fact that you actually did this live or should I say videoed how easy it is to fake proof of Clickbank Income should help a lot of people on your list. Times are tough and EVERYBODY is looking for something that will legitimately work. The desperation for income leads people (myself definitely included) to buy into these types of scams has always been out there. It has just gotten much worse so much so that I no longer even buy Clickbank Products. As for the Warrior Forum at least there are people who do call out things that look somewhat suspicious, but I have to admit I have gotten burned there too. It sucks because there are some legitimate opportunities out there you just have to weed through so much BS. Once again thanks, I (like most people) didn’t know it was this easy to doctor up fake proof.
When CB first started they were pretty tight as far as phony claims. Then after it changed hands a few years back it seemed like it was anything goes. I’m glad they are clamping down some. This kind of phony sales proof makes it bad for everybody.
As a professional graphic artist (among other things), I can tell you that I have the eye to detect fake “proof” if it’s not 100% perfect. This is not to toot any kind of horn, just to say that it helps to have over a decade of experience working with digital tools. So, I sometimes see things that the average person would miss.
That being said…
A good fake will fool me just as well as it will fool anybody else. All you have to be is halfway competent with Photoshop (or whatever other digital editing tool it is that you use) and possess a decent artist’s (or *con artist’s*) eye.
But what I wasn’t aware of is the cute lil tool you demonstrated in this vid, which allows you to go in and alter live HTML pages. Wow. That’s some scary stuff! And I’m sure *that* has fooled me in the past… particularly with CB but also (I’m sure) on the WF, too.
Yikes!
While I agree with you that it would be good if there was some kind of “police” agency keeping an eye on whether IM guys can be trusted, we see how well that has worked (or more precisely, hasn’t worked) on Wall Street. I mean the livelihoods of entire classes of people are “toyed” with on a daily basis, and the gov’t regulatory agency charged with monitoring this was asleep at the switch for a very, very long time. Compared to what happens in IM-world, we’re not just talkin’ “lunch money” here!
What I have seen in the WF and other online communities is that, if you are patient enough, the dirtbags usually out themselves. Of course, that may not help you in the heat of the moment when the price on that “new, killer, money-maker” is going up and the available copies are going down.
A great thing about social media is that social pressures and peer “review” force some folks to be accountable. And dare I say it, perhaps even “honest” when they might not otherwise be. Nobody wants to be known as a dirtbag by large numbers of people. Just ask Rick Santorum (Google it).
Believe only half of what you see, indeed! I may have to ratchet down from my already cynical 25% to much, much lower…
Thanks for the vid, man! Good on you.
I was a broker on Wall Street… SO I know what you mean. The only answer is consumer awareness. Information is power.
- Reilly
Hi Reilly
Really appreciate your valuable information.
Kind Regards
I haven’t trusted any “live” ClickBank (or whatever other system they use) account views for a very long time. If is sounds (looks) to good to be true it probably is.
Thanks for highlighting this again and I like your “shit there are no transactions”
Thanks Jimmy for sharing.
The main problem is new entrants who wish to get into Internet Marketing will not be able to tell them difference.
I hope it is not us readers or browsers who take the trouble to call people out but the moderators for whether be it clickbank, warrior forum to moderate and approve products before they get to be listed.
Although so I do agree people buying products have to scrutinize and look carefully before buying.
We need to take responsibility. Show people how easy and wide spread this problem is, information is power. If everyone in IM sees this video I guarantee the masses will call out the BS artists.
- Reilly
Agreed
Hi
Thanks for this video. I am a newbie and was pretty sure most of the ads I saw with the clickbank screenshots were faked but thought the ones done live were true. Just shows how easy it is to be conned
cheers
Marilyn
I really laughing when you click at the transaction page….no results..This a the truth of a fake screenshort..,Thank Reilly for remind us,you a sooo..funny man
Thanks for this. I knew most / all were crap but I thought “they’d” have to work a bit harder for their crap…. Cheers
Does anyone really believe that if they are making the kind money they show that they would be giving their secret away at any price. I don’t think so. The old saying still stands true,”If it sound to good to be true it probably is.”
Testimonials are another thing to watch. Have you every noticed the same old names and photos on every sellers products. Yes they promote each others products with testimonials. You see this a lot on the Warrior Forum (WSO). They give their product away for free for few they can trust for a Testimonial.
Webinairs are just as bad so don’t get suckered in.
I make purchases online with the same mentality as I do offline. If I see something I want and I feel I can afford it I make he purchase and pay little attention to all the sales pitch hype.
That’s my 2 cents
Rodney
Rodney,
It makes perfect sense, but you must read between the lines. The cliche “I have just stumbled upon the system/cracked the code/invented a piece of software/found a loophole that leads to thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars a month” means: I have found a new pair of scissors to shear my sheep. I will show them a piece of crap in golden wrapping, and they will gladly follow and send me “thousands if not hundreds of thousands of dollars”. Which is easy with a bazzilion of upsells, downsells, JVs and such that each such product is infested with.
I am a CB affiliate, and I refused to promote such offers. More, I left the money making niche at all, and found quite a new one where the results are easy to measure.
Thanks for that man. I am tired of these guys who prey on the hopes and aspirations of folks, especially new internet marketers, for their own gain.
i want give me the easy way to get just 1000 $ in month for me it`s fair enough
I just wonder if (and how) the new CB guidelines will prevent all that scam. Do you think it’s really going to change much after Aug. 31?
The sad thing about fake screenshots is that people DO believe them, they DO believe in ’3 clicks of the mouse to a million dollars’.
That’s the same reason why I try to educate people to stay as far away from matrixes, cyclers or other such stuff promising you millions if you pay “just” $47 one time.
The good thing is: it means there are lots of people we have to educate yet! To show them that an Internet business is like any other business where you need to invest your effort, time, and money before you see anything flowing your way.
What if anybody wants a shortcut? A simpler way? Is there one? Sure thing! Go start playing lotto, slots, roulette, whatever you like. The chances of winning big are the same as with the ’3 clicks of a mouse to a million dollars’.
Cheers,
Robert
The day they can convince clickbank that that these figures are real.. That’ll be something. Probably the same day they launch – “Lose $27 in just 3 clicks”
Wow, boy I felt a bit gullible after watching your video. I’m just a newbie and have bought so many products on IM in the beginning but now I more careful.
I agree with one of the comments above about just looking at the product to see if it suit my needs rather than just believe all the hype.
Anyway, “you’ll reap what you sow”. If there are people who a con artist, they too will be con. Just my belief.
Really appreciate you, Reilly for revealing/ exposing how easily it is to create fake earns.
Thanks
Jimmy,
Taking responsibility and calling someone out about the BS is fine and good. But you have to be very careful when you do this.
Being held “liable for defamation of character or for causing damage to someones business” here in the states by someone/company is a real possibility.
Be sure and have all your ducks in a row before you do it. Or you may find some one else owning everything you used to own.
I’m no attorney so this is not legal advice nor should it be considered as legal advice. It is my opinion only.
This is why I advised the group member NOT to call out the screen shot they saw. Releasing a video like this increases consumer awareness which seemed like the better move.
- Reilly
Hi Jimmy,
I also learned this unethical trick last year, just simply typing a code to the brownser & u can adjust whatever u like.
After knowing this, I stopped buying any products that showed “amazing” income whether from CB, Paypal, etc.
The principal of marketing still on R&R(Relationship building & Results driven).
Thanks for alerting.
Charles Wai
As weird as it might sound I would like to be able to do this in order to use screen shots like this in my mind movie type visualization exercises. I have a (probably fake) screen shot from clickback that has a few hundred a day being shown that I use for visualizing my goals…I would like to be able to create my own customized amount versions.
Thanks for the enlightening demo! I’m off to create a WSO teaching how to fake sales screenshots
“To See Is To Believe” no more. Not all we can see are all believable.